Senator Enyinnaya Abaribe is the Chairman Senate Committee on
Media. In this interview, he spoke on issues surrounding the widely
condemned Child Marriage. Excerpts:
So can you tell us what really transpired at the senate, leading to the “Child Marriage” issue?
The committee that was set up by the Senate to amend the constitution
looked at 4b of Section 29 and felt that because it makes specific
mention of a married woman, which actually has nothing to do with 4a and
renunciation of your citizenship, was not meant to be there. This is
because that subsection is in conflict with Section 42 of the
Constitution, which talks about discrimination.
And so we could
not have two sections that are against each other, because by bringing
in 4b that has a specific mention of a woman, we felt that it was
against Section 42. So the committee now brought it to us and said
rather than continue to have a problem, let that particular Section 4b
be deleted since 4a is there and it is gender neutral. And that was what
played out on the floor of the Senate because at that point we voted on
it.
When we voted, the Section 4b actually passed to be deleted.
But what now happened was that subsequently one of our distinguished
senators, Senator Yerima, raised a point-of-order. Now in parliamentary
practice, you can raise a point-of-order either on the basis of the
constitution or on the basis of our rules.
Now, he raised a
constitutional point-of-order that under the second schedule of the
constitution, Section 61 defines the area that you legislate on as the
exclusive list. And Section 61 talks about Statutory Marriage. And in
Section 61, it says that we cannot go into Customary law or Islamic law
as the case may be.
Now once you raise a point-of-order, it is
bound to be taken by the presiding officer, the Senate President. And so
he (Senate President) now looked at it and decided that in the interest
of everyone of us that were in the chamber because everybody in that
represents a constituency. And once a point-of-order is raised, somebody
from a constituency wants to point out that there is something that he
is seeing there is against whatever he feels his own feelings, as
epitomized by his constituency, is.
So
the Senate President had no option than to take it. It could not muster
the required two third number that would be used to be able to delete
it from the constitution. And that is exactly what happened. What really
we see is that several commentators, several editorials and all manners
of things have been put out to the public with respect to Section 29
and what we voted on was not child marriage.
When the
point-of-order was raised, was it raised before the vote was taken or
after the vote had been taken, and could the point-of-order be raised
after the vote had been taken?
The point-of-order was taken after
the vote. Usually every presiding officer, in other to make sure that
every interest is catered for within the Nigeria states, bends over
backwards to accommodate things that are sad by members who represents a
constituency.
When Senator Yerima raised that point-of-order, the
presiding officer was bound to take it. And on taking it, those who
voted against the position for us to leave it there where in the
minority; it came to 60 to 35. But the point really is that constitution
stipulates that for every position to pass, there must be two third
majority. And because that two third could not be gotten, that is how
that particular section is still in our books as it is today.
Item
61, part 1 of the second schedule of the constitution talks about
Customary law and Islamic law with respect to age of marriage, but
bringing it in with respect to this one, people think that was able to
happen because of the ambiguity of Section 29 (4a and 4b) and that if
this is not deleted such things will always pass?
Renunciation of citizenship
That is not correct because this particular section is specific to
renunciation of your citizenship and does not have anything to do with
any other part of the constitution, with respect to either Islamic law
or customary law. And let me also say this, this same national assembly
in 2003 had passed the Child Rights Act. And in Section 21 of the Child
Rights Act, the age of marriage is specified there- 18 years. That means
that we already have a subsidiary legislation on age of marriage.
Simply
thinking that somebody is trying to go back to that section and try to
use it does not come in at all because that section is specific; it
deals with the matter of renunciation of your citizenship or keeping
your citizenship. Now what we know today is that the age of marriage as
passed by this national assembly, under the Child Rights Act is 18
years. But the Child Rights Act will need to be domesticated in each
state. As at today, most states have passed the Child Rights Act or have
adopted it. I think only 12 states are remaining. What we have been
doing is interfacing with Houses of Assembly of those particular 12
states and telling them to go ahead to adopt the Child Rights Act.
Maturity age
So, with respect to child marriage, the National Assembly has already
done something about it. The question of this section, has nothing to do
with child marriage. But why did the Senate wait this long to explain
this to Nigerians because truly the 2003 Child Rights Act has states
talking of so many issue relating to marriage age or maturity age, which
most of them said is 21 years.
But in all of these, did anyone
stampede the senate or deceive the senate into retaking that particular
vote after it was done the very first time?
Nobody bullied the
senate, nobody pushed the senate, nobody did anything to twist the hand
of the senate. This is mainly a pragmatic approach that we normally take
in legislation. Legislation is done for all times. And some of the
times, somebody can get up and say we may have to revisit this section
because we now have further information on that. All that simply
happened was that there was a point-of-order raised and usually anytime a
point-of-order is raised on anything, we vote on it.